Vaginal Pain after Bowel Movement?

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September 27, 2010 6:17 PM

Has anyone ever experienced vaginal burning/shooting pains after a bowel movement? I don't know if this is vulvodynia or what, but before I started the anti-candida diet I had a few times where I had sharp shooting pains in my vaginal area.

It only happened 2-3 times and I haven't had it for about 2-3 months now. For some reason it seems to be coming back now, but it's usually only after I have a bowel movement. My stomach feels tight and I get the burning/shooting pain in my vaginal area.

Any ideas what this may be? I've never had a vaginal yeast infection that I knew of though I have noticed a slight increase in discharge since starting this diet. It seems normal though.
 
 
 
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September 27, 2010 7:30 PM

Hi MM,

I have experienced this before- more of a burning sensation for me, but once in a while I do experience burning following a bowel movement. I have been diagnosed by my medical doctor with vulvar vestibulitus/vulvodynia. The VVS has been improving alot over the past few months, but I do find that when I have more digestive symptoms, particulary loose stools then I feel more external vaginal discomfort. I haven't quite wrapped my head around that yet....but you are definetly not alone in this experience.

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Jacqueline
 
 
 
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September 28, 2010 7:16 PM

Hi there MM,

That's an interesting correlation and I'm afraid I can't help you make sense of it. If you continue to track it, perhaps something will become more clear for you.

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September 28, 2010 8:30 PM

There is a correlation between bowel issues and vulvar issues. The doctors just don't know exactly what, but feel it's important to keep everything moving regularly for that issue. Shooting pains are a result of the internal vaginal muscle/nerve being too tight usually. It may have been more aggravated with the bowel movement from the pressure.
 
 
 
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December 28, 2010 12:26 PM

Maybe something dropped. check out dr oz show from last yr in jan about vulvodynia. i was diagnosed with it too...Frown
 
 
 
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August 23, 2011 6:43 PM

I know this is an old post, but for anyone stumbling across this, I have the same issue, along with others. It took a while and several doctors to figure out, but I was finally diagnosed with pelvic floor tension myalgia. It's basically a more rare type of pelvic floor dysfunction, where the pelvic muscles have gone into spasm and shortened. One of the many possible symptoms is vaginal burning/vulvodynia. They were sure it was yeast related due to the burning and that it started after a yeast infection, but all tests came out negative. They still tried to treat me for yeast, but I stopped taking the medicine or following the candida the diet. They also thought I had interstitial cystitis, but I don't. The only thing that helped is internal vaginal physical therapy. You have to make sure you find a physical therapist who treats this type of pelvic floor dysfunction and make sure they are well seasoned. Some are much better than others. I had to find a urologist who specialized in pelvic floor dysfunction to diagnose me and refer me to the PT. I had a bad case of it that came on suddenly, and many many painful symptoms including vaginal burning, vaginal itching at times, painful intercourse, rectal spasms, feeling of constantly full bladder even when it wasn't, burning when urinating, very very tender abdomen where i couldn't even touch it. The burning does get worse after a bowel movement, and many times I will feel shooting pains in the vagina. It felt like something was stuck in there, and at times it felt like glass was stuck in my urethra. I was in so much pain I couldn't do anything. Nothing relieved the pain. After I started physical therapy the symptoms started to subside. WHen i have them they are very manageable, and many times I don't have any symptoms at all. I was in PT for almost 2 years before getting pregnant, so now I can't do PT during pregnancy because of some other complications. I have the burning on and off, mostly from the doctor using a speculum to do pelvic exams, but for the most part I am pain free. This is a very underdiagnosed condition as the symptoms mimic infections. I just wanted to respond in case any one else was going through something similar and looking for answers. Smile
 
 
 
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September 1, 2011 1:34 PM

Oh my goodness what an ordeal you've been through stranjgirl!

I'm so pleased to hear you've found some relief. Do you have any idea of the actual cause of your condition?

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September 5, 2011 5:46 PM

Hi!!!!!! I just want to say that last December 2010 I got the worse yeast infection in my life. After I got it I developed painful urinating and I had to pee all the time. My vagina was on fire and I had burning pains when I had a stool. I was crying out for help and I just needed answers. Sex was impossible...I felt like I just wanted to die. I went to several Dr's. Last Dec. I went on the yeast free diet for 7 straight months. I wasn't any better. I spent so much money on anything that would take my pain away. It was none stop pain. I did so much research asked my OBGYN to refer me to a PT. I told her I thought I might have pelvic floor dysfunction. She referred me and I got my answer. I suffered so many months and I didnt have to. Stranjegirl....... you said it perfectly. I only wish I read that when I was going through the pain and trauma all those months. I am doing so much better. The pain is on and off but livable. I am still seeing a pt.
Tarilee....if you ever run across a woman complaining of this will you please have them check it out with a physical therapist. A yeast infection set mine off. I just dont want others to have to go through what I did. ALso I wanted to ask you why does yeast come back? I was so strict for so long. I began eating fruit after 7 months and a tiny bit of sugar. THe gas and bloated stomach came back. I am also having horrible anxiety. Will I have to eat this restricted forever? Thanks.
 
 
 
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September 8, 2011 12:07 PM

Once in a while we get someone complaining of vulvodyna and they struggle a lot to find reasons and treatments. Please do post more info on how to get help and what to ask for in a practioner. Then we'll put a post in our women's section FAQ's.

Thank you so much!

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September 9, 2011 2:47 AM

This sounds like what may be wrong with me. I need to get checked.
 
 
 
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September 12, 2011 6:42 PM

Do check this out MSS, hopefully you can get some guidance from this info above to help you find a suitable practitioner. I'm certain most practitioners would NOT be suitable as it is a real special, specialty, isn't it? Good luck with the hunt for the right doctor and therapist.

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September 22, 2011 3:13 PM

Well, well, well... I went to a pt appt today. I have no pelvic strength. I have lots of internal inflammation. My muscles in hips and legs need work.

I am thankful for this thread because it helped me to be aware of these problems. Thanks for sharing.
 
 
 
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September 26, 2011 11:50 AM

Hi Mss,

 

Good to hear you're getting some information. May I ask (so that others can benefit), what kind of practitioner helped you with this?

 

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September 26, 2011 1:52 PM

I read it here and called my obgyn. She sent me to physical therapy for it. I had one evaluation so far. I go back tomorrow. I am looking fwd to her helping me.

 
 
 
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September 29, 2011 1:22 PM

Very interesting. I'm so glad you had a relationship with an obgyn to ask and that she had a physical therapist to refer you to!

 

I hope you find some great results!

 

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October 1, 2011 9:37 PM

I was compelled to join just to post this one reply.  I know how bad this pain can be and it is hard to find good people to diagnose and help.  My mother has this pain.  In her case, it had nothing to do with candida.  It is about muscle spasms.

 

We found a doc who specialized in this kind of pain, a gynie with additional experience and training.  He explained that often this type of pain is more typical in women who have not had childbirth (and I'm adopted, my mom has not given birth) and who are or were more athletic (true for her).  This is just general, not written in stone.  My mother has had chronic pain in her lower body from an incurable UTI as well as years of endometriosis and the doc believes such pain and trauma in the area can be easily re-aroused, like muscle memory.  My mom's pain is predictable- if it's going to happen, it's after a BM or after extreme emotional upset, when she might have a lot of muscle tension.

 

The treatment he prescribed has worked very well.  Mom uses a tiny (pencil eraser sized) vaginal valium suppository.  I know, who knew there was such a thing?  That, and twice daily low doses of Xanax.  This treatment is not foolproof and some days she has breakthrough pain, but it works most of the time very well. 

 

I'm not a doctor and don't know if this is the same pain described here by others, but if you have similar pain it may be worth trying to find a vaginal pain specialist. 

 

I don't want to violate any board rules by plugging our doctor, and the odds are he will not be close to you (he's in eastern PA) but if you contact his office, he is involved in a network of docs who specialize in this and they might be able to refer.  His info can be found here - http://www.vitals.com/doctors/...obert_Echenberg.html .  I truly wish you the best.  This is a terrible pain if it is anything like my mom's, and you can't be rid of it soon enough.

 
 
 
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October 2, 2011 8:53 AM

I found the group of which our doctor is a part. 

 

It is the International Pelvic Pain Society.Their website is http://www.pelvicpain.org/

 
 
 
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October 8, 2011 7:29 AM

Thanks for all the information. I will check it out.

 
 
 
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October 10, 2011 11:16 AM

By the way, I'm going to move this post into the women's section.

 

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March 28, 2013 9:40 AM

Oh my gosh I was so excited when I saw this post! I know it is a few years old now, but there is so much of what I am experiencing in this post! I recently had a CT scan because I am having pain in my vagina ever since I had my daughter 2 and a half years ago! Sometimes feels like knife if up me and I can not walk at times. I also only a few times have where my vagina itches so bad. It is terrible, and I read that this can be a sign of Candida too.I do notice that sometimes it is related to my bowels and at time when I am having the pain in my vagina if I have a feeling I need to have a bowel movement, the pain stops my body from it happening! I am constipated a lot and find it hard often to have a bowel movement. I have stomach pains almost always. And I have gas all the time! I was told years ago that I needed to do a Candida cleanse because I was having many symptoms and I ignored it then. And now I am looking at this again and thinking/knowing I need to do a cleanse and change the way I eat. I took the Candida questionnaire on here and I was 213, so way high, I must have Candida right? I have become more and more light headed and dizzy lately and have a feeling of just not being able to keep things straight in my head. I have also had vision problems. I have had neck problems over the 16 years since and accident 16 years ago. I go to a chiropractor and she is always in shock how long my neck does not hold! She is the one that mentioned looking at a Candida cleanse again. She feels there is something especially when the pelvic pain I am having and the urinating problems I am having. I go pee at least every hours and something every half hour, depending on my water intake. I feel I pee out everything I drink! And how am I suppose to stay hydrated this way? And reading in these forums I am seeing that frequent urine problem can be caused by Candida? Like I said I was sent for a CT scan and everything is "normal.: But they still cant explain the pain. As staniegirl said I have the same feeling that everything in going to fall out in my vaginal area and the muscle are always contracting! I think I have pelvic floor tension myalgia as well, I have been researching this the past week. But my gyno wants to send me to a urologist, but I dont know how they will help me? I dont feel it will help me. I need to go ahead with this detox but I am a little scared! It is really a life change and with a toddler,husband and working 6 days a week I am worried of failing! And I dont know where to start!? The diet yes, but what to eat/make? And especially for a family! I am allergic to almonds and eggs and this seems to be in a lot of the food ideas. Or will these food allergies go away when I do the Candida cleanse?
 
Straniegilr thanks for this post and I hope you are doing well! I would love to hear if you pelvic pain is gone and if so for how long? And other symptoms you might have.
 
And anyone else with some advice, thoughts or anything to push me forward, if you are thinking I am moving in the right directoin with Candida cleanse.
Originally Posted by stranjegirl:
I know this is an old post, but for anyone stumbling across this, I have the same issue, along with others. It took a while and several doctors to figure out, but I was finally diagnosed with pelvic floor tension myalgia. It's basically a more rare type of pelvic floor dysfunction, where the pelvic muscles have gone into spasm and shortened. One of the many possible symptoms is vaginal burning/vulvodynia. They were sure it was yeast related due to the burning and that it started after a yeast infection, but all tests came out negative. They still tried to treat me for yeast, but I stopped taking the medicine or following the candida the diet. They also thought I had interstitial cystitis, but I don't. The only thing that helped is internal vaginal physical therapy. You have to make sure you find a physical therapist who treats this type of pelvic floor dysfunction and make sure they are well seasoned. Some are much better than others. I had to find a urologist who specialized in pelvic floor dysfunction to diagnose me and refer me to the PT. I had a bad case of it that came on suddenly, and many many painful symptoms including vaginal burning, vaginal itching at times, painful intercourse, rectal spasms, feeling of constantly full bladder even when it wasn't, burning when urinating, very very tender abdomen where i couldn't even touch it. The burning does get worse after a bowel movement, and many times I will feel shooting pains in the vagina. It felt like something was stuck in there, and at times it felt like glass was stuck in my urethra. I was in so much pain I couldn't do anything. Nothing relieved the pain. After I started physical therapy the symptoms started to subside. WHen i have them they are very manageable, and many times I don't have any symptoms at all. I was in PT for almost 2 years before getting pregnant, so now I can't do PT during pregnancy because of some other complications. I have the burning on and off, mostly from the doctor using a speculum to do pelvic exams, but for the most part I am pain free. This is a very underdiagnosed condition as the symptoms mimic infections. I just wanted to respond in case any one else was going through something similar and looking for answers. Smile
 
 
 
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March 28, 2013 12:29 PM

Hello Seeking,

 

Welcome to the forum,

 

I'm sorry to hear of your painful condition and I'm relieved to hear that the post here offered you a relevant resource. I wish you luck exploring the approaches to recovery from this condition.

 

If the candida component of your health challenges needs support, our program and forum might be very useful for you. You'll find a post that guides you through the full introduction to the Whole Approach protocol, diet instructions and food lists in the welcome tips post in the welcome section. 

 

I'm here Mondays and Thursdays if you have questions about anything you read here. Take good care and best of luck in your recovery.

 

Tarilee

 
 
 
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March 29, 2013 12:52 PM

Hi Tarilee,

Thanks for this post! I have looked for a post for introduction on the Whole Approach and am not finding it? I am finding some post but not about how to start and a menu maybe for ideas to begin?

I also am wondering how do I ask question? If not related to a post? And am I able to save post that I like in my profile? So I can reference? Feel bad putting this here, it can be deleted! Please let me know.

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 10:01 AM

Hi Seeking,

 

In the forums list you'll see the welcome section which includes several threads. One is this one, the Welcome Tips for the Forum thread that links you to many other information sources on the web.

 

As a possible site update we're considering transitioning some of these standard intro posts and other regularly used information posts to sections on the main website rather than the forum. I'm sorry you had trouble finding what you needed but don't be afraid to ask if you can't find something. 

 

The search is handy but sometimes it takes a bit of time to figure out the key sections of the forum and website. 

 

Take good care and let me know if you need clarification on anything you read here.

 

Tarilee

 

 
 
 
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August 28, 2013 8:54 AM

This is a very old post,I wonder is anyone still following this.
In new to this forum so if anybody is having the same issues I would live to share info!
 
 
 
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August 29, 2013 10:58 AM

HI Tina,

 

Welcome to the forum. I invite you to visit our welcome forum to learn about our program and protocol.

 

As for the issue above, it never hurts to post on an old post if it's still open. Occasionally you'll find that people are still signed up to receive notifications on their old postings.

 

Additionally what I recommend is that you search related key words. I have no expertise in this area but some of our members in the past have researched and explored related conditions quite thoroughly. 

 

Try searching our forums for the following terms among others:

 

"Vaginal pain"

 

"Pelvic floor tension myalgia"

 

"Vulvodynia"

 

Take good care and please let me know if I can help further. I'm here Monday and Thursday for a couple of hours to answer questions about the Whole Approach protocol and food therapy program.

 

Best Regards and healing thoughts,

 

Tarilee

 

 
 
 
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August 29, 2013 10:59 AM

By the way Tina,

 

If you open up the women's section of the forum you can post a new topic to begin a discussion. The forum gets a lot busier later in September so, even if you don't hear back from someone right away, stick around and you might find participants in a couple of weeks.

 

Tarilee

 
 
 
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